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Claim: E-mail details actor Denzel Washington's TV appearance with Katie Couric.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2004]
Origins: In On 28 July 2004 actor Denzel Washington, star of the 2004 remake of the film The Manchurian Candidate, was interviewed by Katie Couric on the Today show, and he also took part in a taped panel discussion on politics, along with Manchurian Candidate director Jonathan Demme and co-star Meryl Streep, which was hosted by Katie Couric and aired on
As the transcript of the
Couric: "Denzel, are you — do you feel — you know some people say Hollywood folks should stick to acting."At no point in the exchange did anyone mention Republicans or Christians.
Washington: "I don't know what Hollywood folks are, first of all. Hollywood is a town that has some stars on the sidewalk. I don't know anybody from there. So, I don't
Couric: "Okay, all right, well, let me rephrase the question. Are you one of those people
Washington: "Ah, there you go. Am I one of those people? Hmmm, isn't that interesting?"
Couric: "Oh, stop, stop, stop."
Washington: "No, don't stop. I heard what you just said. 'Am I one of those people?' No, I'm not."
Couric: "No, are you an actor who would rather
Washington: "No, I'm not that either. I'm a human being. My job is acting."
Couric: "Okay, are you somebody who would rather not express his political views publicly? I mean how do you feel about that? Some people are more outspoken than others. And what I meant, are you one of the people who would rather keep it private? Don't make my questions loaded when they're not."
Washington: "Would I rather keep it private? No, I'm not one of those people. I think I speak what's on my mind."
Moreover, there was no "barrage" of "all kinds of anti-Bush, anti-Republican comments" that left the two women present "fuming," nor did either of those women claim to have a "problem with you people." At one point,
Streep: "Oh, I was there" [at a fund-raiser for Senator John Kerry].Ms. Couric did not ask Mr. Washington directly whether he had seen
Couric: "I know you were there. And in fact, I read your quote. You said
Streep: "No, of Jesus."
Couric: "Of Jesus, sorry. 'Through the shock and awe, I wondered which of the megaton bombs Jesus, our president's personal savior, would have personally dropped on the sleeping families in Baghdad.'"
Streep: "It was a question about when you put Jesus on the campaign bus to stump for you, you have to really listen to what he says, because he says, 'If a man smite thee on the cheek, let you turn the other that he may smite it also.' And he says, 'He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.' And he says, 'Love thine enemy.' Jesus could have raised an army against the people that persecuted him. He didn't. So that's what I was pointing out in my speech, and I couldn't really imagine Jesus, like I couldn't imagine how Jesus would vote. Jesus was the Prince of Peace. Would the Prince of Peace vote for a war President?"
Washington: "And it's open to interpretation. Jesus also went into the temple and kicked everybody out."
Streep: "That's kicking the money-changers out of the temple."
Washington: "Well, you're right. So —"
Streep: "The money-changers should get out of Congress, I agree. And I agree, but he
Washington: "He didn't. He didn't only say turn the other cheek though. You’ve got to read the whole book. That's not what all he said."
Streep: "Oh, I do read the whole book."
Washington: "I do too. And that's not all he said."
Streep: "What does he say that said 'pick up a stick and kill somebody?'"
Washington: "Like I said, he did go into the temple and cleared the place
Streep: "Of money, yeah."
Washington: "Okay, well, we're all —"
Streep: "Money's bad."
Washington: "We all make money. So does that make us bad? Maybe he's talking about us?"
Streep: "Well, yeah, maybe."
Couric: "And how do you feel about the current political situation?"Although other topics that were not included in the excerpts aired on
Washington: "You know, I haven't seen 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' because I live in America. I grew up here. I'm an ex-slave. I'm a result of what this country can do. So it's nothing new to me. I'm not surprised at all. It's just business as usual. What I want to talk about is, what are we doing right now, today, for these young kids that are coming home? Are we embracing them? I don't hear about them being lifted up. I mean, I'm not just talking about a parade
Couric: "Are they getting the support they need."
Washington: "Are they getting the support and love they need from us? And maybe that story's being told, but I sure haven't seen it that much in the news. Yeah, they're pointing fingers about who was right and whose wrong and who started what and where the weapons of mass destruction. But these kids are coming home."
Washington: "You know, I have a son, 19, 19-year-olds are coming home completely different."
Last updated: 23 August 2004
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